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Connor
You’re listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun and practical ways.

Jeff
Hey, Chris, let’s do a podcast today.

Chris
Yeah, I have a good idea. Let’s you and I do a podcast.

Jeff
All right. And what should we talk about?

Chris
Um, well, I think we might be able to talk about John chapter ten, verses 22 through 42, but that’s just that’s just a random guess in the Bible.

Jeff
Hey, let’s, let’s, let’s be, uh, the Bible guys.

Chris
You know what? That’s a good name. Yeah.

Jeff
All right, all right, let’s do it then.

Chris
Okay, everybody. Everybody’s a Bible guy. Everybody’s a Bible girl, right? That’s right. If you if you love the Bible and you may not know anything about it, you pick it up and you start to read it. You’re a Bible guy. There you.

Jeff
Go. That’s exactly right. That’s right. Well, that’s the whole premise behind this. This, uh, podcast, quite honestly, is, um, it’s where two guys, we literally take the Bible, we open it to where we’re supposed to be reading today, and then you guys, you and I just talk about it, right? Right. And we try to talk about it mostly based on the words on the page. Uh, we don’t do a ton of cross-referencing. Right. And it’s because we think that the Bible, uh, read intentionally, um, and understood in the context of the rest of the Bible makes sense and is understandable by everybody. So I think everybody can and.

Chris
It’s and it’s not necessarily a deep dive. It’s not a study, you know, you know, based on Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek or whatever. Although sometimes that happens. Yeah. Uh, but you know, like, uh, there’s always people who are, uh, quick to point out, uh, a few, not not too many, but a few people that are like, uh, well, it’s not deep enough. Well, you know, whatever. Go, go find somebody else that’s deeper.

Jeff
Yeah. So, so we’re just sitting around like a couple guys, a couple of buddies that are talking about the Bible, kind of on a devotional level, um, and fun and practical ways. And so that’s what it’s all about. And I think anybody can do that.

Chris
Well, we have a segment today that I’m pretty nervous about.

Jeff
I’m super excited about this segment here. So, uh, this might be the best one we’ve done in a while. Uh, it’s Bible verse or not is the segment. And I’m going to going to give you either five Bible verses or five Avenger quotes or some blend of the two. Right. So blend of the two. I’m going to read five quotes and they’re either.

Chris
Okay, five.

Jeff
Quotes and they’re either a Bible verse or okay.

Chris
But there’s not there’s not a blend of the two in a single. No.

Jeff
Although they sound blended to me. Okay.

Chris
Right. Ready? Are you ready? Yeah, I’m in the pressure cooker. Go ahead.

Jeff
Okay. Here’s the number one. Yep. For it is God’s servant, an avenger that brings wrath on the one who does wrong.

Chris
Say it again.

Jeff
For it is God’s servant and avenger that brings wrath on the one who does wrong.

Chris
That’s a Bible verse.

Jeff
Yeah. You want to guess where, um.

Chris
I’m going to say.

Jeff
Genesis, uh, Romans 13.

Chris
Holy cow, that’s a New Testament.

Jeff
Yeah, yeah. So Romans 13 talks about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you’re if you’re obeying the law, you don’t have to worry about judgment, you know, from the government. Yeah. That’s what it is. So yeah I got it.

Chris
I’m one for one okay.

Jeff
This one is.

Chris
Not required to guess the book.

Jeff
That’s right. This one is incredibly difficult. Is this your king?

Chris
That is incredibly difficult. I’m going to say Avengers quote.

Jeff
Yeah. Uh, do you have an Avengers movie?

Chris
Um, is this your king? I’m going to say Captain America part two, Black Panther.

Jeff
Erik Killmonger.

Chris
Oh, yeah. Of course. Is this your king? Yeah.

Jeff
Again, you’re not required for those extras. I was just going to give you a million bonus points.

Chris
For that Loki. Oh, wait. You know, the funny thing is, I said. I said Captain America part two, but that’s, uh, that’s, um. That’s Winter soldier. Yeah, yeah, I was meaning the original Avengers when Loki tried to come be king. Oh, is this your king? But, but but that’s what I was thinking.

Jeff
Yeah, I get that.

Chris
But either way, I got it. Okay? I’m not required to. Here we go.

Jeff
Yeah. Number three. If no one saves us, we will surrender to you.

Chris
Oh. That sounds like a Exodus passage. Let me think. If no one saves us, we will surrender to you. I’m going to say Bible verse, Exodus.

Jeff
Uh, Bible verse first Samuel 11.

Chris
Wonder what that context is? Yeah, yeah.

Jeff
Yeah, I don’t know. I didn’t look it up, I should have. Okay, here we go. Ready?

Chris
Hey, I’m three for three.

Jeff
You’re three for three.

Chris
Okay.

Jeff
Uh, the strong man who has known power all his life may lose respect for that power. But a weak man knows the value of strength and knows compassion. That’s an.

Chris
Avengers quote.

Jeff
Yeah.

Chris
Um, I think I do. Uh, I remember it. I don’t remember which movie. I just want.

Jeff
To point out you were three for three up til this one.

Chris
Oh, is it a Bible verse?

Jeff
I’m just pointing out that you were three for three up until this one.

Chris
Oh, no, I’m saying it’s an Avengers quote. I’m trying to think of the movie, uh, Strong man.

Jeff
The strongman, who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power.

Chris
Oh, that’s Captain America the First Avenger.

Jeff
Value of strength and knows the compassion.

Chris
The doctor said it to Abraham Erskine. Yes.

Jeff
Captain America the First Avenger.

Chris
Nailed the movie, which is not required.

Jeff
But I planted a little bit of doubt in your mind for just a second. Yeah?

Chris
Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, a little bit.

Jeff
Devise a plan and it will fail. Make your prediction it will not happen.

Chris
Ooh! Goodness gracious. Devise a plan. It will fail. Make a prediction. Will not happen. That’s got to be a Bible verse.

Jeff
Do you have an idea.

Chris
Where Proverbs.

Jeff
Isaiah, Isaiah eight. Yeah. So you have five for five today.

Chris
Yeah. All right.

Jeff
I don’t know if it’s because you know so much Bible or are you able to sort out go. That’s not an Avenger quote.

Chris
You know you know Jeff, it is possible to be both. It is possible to be both. Right.

Jeff
But how did your brain work? Did your brain go that can’t be an Avenger. Quote. It’s a Bible.

Chris
Verse. I really think it’s 5050.

Jeff
Well, for me, as I read through those, I thought the only way I could sort that out is they all sound kind of like Bible verses. Right? So then I think you had to sort it through going.

Chris
I don’t remember that in the movie.

Jeff
That’s not in the movie.

Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, there’s obviously way more obscure Bible references that I may have forgotten, right? Because movies are only 90 minutes long and I’ve seen them multiple times.

Jeff
1000 verses in the Bible.

Chris
Yeah, yeah. So but however, I honestly believe that it was sort of both. My brain was sort of functioning firing on on both sides, you know.

Jeff
Good job.

Chris
Man. Thanks, buddy.

Jeff
Well, I, you never cease to amaze.

Chris
But I only nailed one book.

Jeff
Yeah.

Chris
Yeah. That’s true. And I nailed one true. One movie.

Jeff
One movie, one book.

Chris
So yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Jeff
Okay. Well. Good job. Did you get a book? I don’t think you got a book.

Chris
Oh, I meant to say movie. Yeah. One movie. I only know.

Jeff
One because it’s Romans first. Samuel and Isaiah. Those are the three books. But you got you got the first Avenger movie. Yeah. That’s it. Yeah.

Chris
Hey everyone! I’m not sure if you’re an avid Facebook user, or maybe you’re just the kind of person that feels like you have to have Facebook because you know it’s a necessity in life. But either way, it does go a long way. If you were to share a link of the Bible guys or to go to our Facebook and like it because it’ll connect us all. And so we’d appreciate you doing that.

Jeff
And we want everybody to see our happy faces.

Chris
Let’s read the Bible, Jeff.

Jeff
Okay. Let’s do it.

Chris
There’s the transition. There you go.

Jeff
So creative. John, chapter ten, verse 22. This is picking up where we left off yesterday. And uh, we’re going to read through 42. It says it was now winter and Jesus was in Jerusalem at the time of Hanukkah, the festival of dedication. He was in the temple walking through the section known as Solomon’s Colonnade. The people surrounded him and asked, how long are you going to keep us in suspense? If you’re the Messiah, tell us plainly. And Jesus replied, I have already told you, and you don’t believe me. The proof is the work I do in my father’s name. But you don’t believe me because you’re not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice. I know them and they follow me. I give them eternal life and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me. From my father has given them to me. And he is more powerful than anyone else. No one can snatch them from the father’s hand. The father and I are one. Once again the people picked up stones to kill him. Jesus said, at my father’s direction, I have done many good works. For which one of you are going to stone me? For which one are you going to stone me? They replied, we’re stoning you. Not for any good work, but for blasphemy. You are a mere man claim to be God. Jesus replied. It is written in your own scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, I say, you are gods, and you know that the scriptures cannot be altered. So if those who who received God’s message were called gods, why do you call it blasphemy? When I say I am the Son of God? After all, the father sent me apart and sent me into the world. Jeff
Don’t believe me unless I carry out my father’s work. But if I do his work, believe in the evidence of the miraculous works I’ve done. Even if you don’t believe me, then you’ll know and understand that the father is in me, and I am in the father. Once again they tried to arrest him, but he got away and left them. He went beyond the Jordan River, near the place where John was first baptizing, and stayed there a while. Many followed him. John didn’t perform miraculous signs. They remarked to one another, but everything he said about this man has come true. And many who were there believed in Jesus. Mhm. Wow.

Chris
Yeah. So, um, I saw, uh, an interpretation of this on the chosen. Um, uh, you know, the chosen is not something that follows the scripture. Exactly. Uh, the, the scripture is a, the, the chosen is a loose interpretation of what it could have been like. Yeah.

Jeff
It might have been like this.

Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And had.

Jeff
A lot of takes, a lot of artistic.

Chris
Liberty. Yes, yes. Because they, they, they the whole goal of that, I think that uh, app, app, I say app. Right. Because it’s really it’s a series, but it’s on, it’s accessible on app. Sure. Um, I think, I think that they’re what they’re doing is they’re trying to fill in the blanks in between the lines and say, what, what what did it what must it have been like for for this to happen or whatever? Right. But anyway, I think that this interpretation, uh, of this story I saw and it was incredibly moving, it was so emotionally moving. And I thought, man, if it was even close to that, that is an incredibly powerful moment where Jesus, you know, finally, you know, think about it. He’s he’s surrounded, uh, he’s at the temple, you know, and then he and he finally, you know, comes out because he’s been at the temple before where he does not say such things. Right. And here now, he’s coming toward the end of his life, and he’s and he’s making these audacious claims. And here he is. You know, they’re they’re at the temple. Imagine the majesty of this massive temple. And imagine, like the presence of God is there. There’s God’s address. The Holy of Holies is right there. There’s where God is. Yeah, just feet.

Jeff
From just where.

Chris
He’s at, feet from where he’s standing. Yeah. And he’s saying, the father has sent me and I and the father are one. And so I mean, and so it’s no wonder why they’re like, they’re like, we’re going to stone you. Yeah. And then finally, he’s just unapologetically saying, why is your reaction to Stone me? Because everything I’m saying lines up. It lines up with the scriptures. It lines up with the work, it lines up with everything. And I’m telling you the truth. And he finally comes out and just says it, and it says, and after everything that they said, they still try to arrest him. And he says, but he got away from them and left him. Right. So I wonder how that was. I got away from them and left him.

Jeff
Well, there’s other times where it says that they were there to grasp him, and he walked among them. Yeah, and got away. Right. So somehow God just gives him this ability to.

Chris
Yeah.

Jeff
Because it wasn’t his turn. Right?

Chris
It wasn’t his time. I think I’d like to think there was like a force field around them. And then they come and then they are, and they fall back, you know? Yeah, that’d be cool. That’d be neat. Or if he.

Jeff
Just turns invisible or they go, they can’t see him anymore.

Chris
Oh, he’s.

Jeff
He’s got like a cloak of of invisibility.

Chris
How can you see me when I have a cloak of invisibility? That was on 17 again. There you go. Um, with Zac Efron.

Chris
By the way, you didn’t catch it. I didn’t, that was I missed it. That was.

Jeff
It’s because I’m not well versed in Zac Efron.

Chris
Movies, I think Zac Efron. Yeah, but.

Chris
It was the principal. Uh.

Jeff
That’s like a that’s like.

Jeff
A two year callback 500 episodes ago that came up.

Chris
17 again. No, that was like ten years ago.

Jeff
No, no, no, I’m talking about when we started making fun of Zac Efron and your affinity for Zac Efron.

Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s like a two year joke because yeah, we’ve.

Jeff
Done like 500 episodes since then. But yeah, it’s.

Chris
Funny, pretty close. Uh, but anyway, uh, I guess the whole point is, is that, uh, there’s a lot of, uh, drop the microphone kind of moments in here. Yeah. And Jesus is now unapologetically making the claim in the place, right? Right. The the number one place and the number one claim. Yeah.

Jeff
Standing there on the Temple Mount, um, have you you’ve been on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

Chris
Uh, you mean the Western Wall kind of thing?

Jeff
Well, yeah. So the Western Wall is at the bottom. Then you go up top.

Chris
Of the rock and.

Chris
All of the rock.

Jeff
Mosque and stuff. So the that area where the, the dome of the rock is, if you ever see a picture of Jerusalem, it’s always that gold topped building. That’s a, um, uh, a muslim holy site now. But that is exactly where the Temple of Solomon used to stand before the Romans destroyed it. And, uh, so this is where Jesus is, and it’s the holiest place, um, on earth at that time for the Jews. And so, yeah, for him to make this claim and there’s no stronger claim in Scripture than this one for Jesus to say, I and the father are one. Right? Right. Um, the I’m equal. Yes. So in the Jewish mindset, the father and the son are equal, right? And so for you and me to say, I and the father are one, what we would hear is I am my father. And that’s a weird thing, right? We can’t wrap my head around that. But what he’s saying here is I and my father are one. It’s he’s he’s claiming equality in the way that Jewish people would have understood this equality. And that’s why they wanted to kill him. That’s blasphemy. No, no. Human is God, right? Right. No human is on God’s level. Um, and so they really, really struggle with that even today. I recently had a conversation with a muslim friend, and that’s his hang up. Uh, we met with the sheikh, who I was in Iraq. We had, uh, uh, dinner sitting on the floor around the food, you know, and his sons were sitting there and stuff. And he’s very open to this idea of, of, uh, God and all this stuff. But he struggles with the idea that Jesus is the Son of God. How can God have a son? Jeff
That’s it. Man, he’s so close. Right. Uh, and and, you know, so it’s still a confusing thing in the Middle Eastern culture. How can a person claim to be the Son of God? But Jesus goes and he quotes the book of Psalm chapter 82 and uh, uh, verse six, where God calls the people of Israel gods right now, little G, not big G, right. Uh, and that’s a weird thing, because our so are the people of God little gods. Is that the goal? You know, Mormons would say that’s the goal is eventually you’re going to become a god of your own. Your own planet.

Chris
And own your own planet.

Jeff
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, that’s not what he’s implying. I looked at verse up and here’s the verse. He says, um, he’s talking about being oppressed and that the people of Israel are being oppressed. And God says, I say, you are gods. You are all children of the Most High, but you will die like mere mortals and will fall like every other ruler. And so, uh, he’s saying you’re the chosen people of God. You’re the children of God. You’re like gods little G, not big G. And the note here says the psalm, this psalm calls the rulers and judges of Israel gods and children of the Most High. They were called gods because they represent God and executing judgment. Uh, John, chapter ten records Jesus using this passage to defend his claims to be God. His argument was as follows. If God would call these people mere people little gods, why was it blasphemous for him, the true Son of God, to declare himself equal with God? So what? What God is saying in, in, in Luke or in, uh, Psalm 82 is because you speak for me, because you execute judgment. He’s talking to judges and rulers because you represent me. Mhm. Even though you feel like you’re being oppressed, you’re children of God. You’re you’re of God, you’re gods. Right. That’s what he was saying. Uh, now they were only mere humans. So Jesus said, if God would do that for the people who represent him, what would he? How does God view the Son of God? Right. And and because they wanted to kill him over the fact that he used the word God, right? And he goes, God used the word God for.

Jeff
You, right, right, right.

Jeff
That’s all he’s saying. So he’s not saying that they were gods, and God is not saying that they were gods in the way that you and I think of creator type gods. Right? But he was saying, hey, you can’t execute me for this. God did the same thing in the book of Psalms.

Chris
Well, you know, even back in the garden in Genesis chapter two, when when Satan was trying to deceive or did deceive Adam and Eve into eating the fruit, right? Yeah. Uh, he said, uh, he said half truths, right? Yeah. And. They were sort of true. And he said, God, you shall not surely die. Which, by the way, is a half truth, because they didn’t die right away. Right, right, right. And he said, he goes, But God knows that you’ll be like him. You’ll be like, God’s right. Right. And the thing is, that’s sort of true, right? Because he said he said, you’ll be more like God knowing good and evil. And what do they do? They knew good and evil. Yeah. As soon as they ate it. So they were like him. And so God tells us, be great.

Jeff
If we only knew good and we didn’t know evil, it’d.

Chris
Be great.

Chris
Right? You should be like, that’s what they like. Good, right? Right, right.

Jeff
That’s what they lost is right. We think, uh, knowing all the the good and the bad is a good thing. And in reality, had we not known it, we wouldn’t have actualized evil. It wouldn’t have ever happened. Yeah. So he said, you won’t surely die. What? The lie he’s saying is that you really are just your body.

Chris
Hmm.

Jeff
But the truth is, you’re not just your body. Your body is just a vehicle for you. You are a spiritual being, your spirit guide. The Bible says we were dead spiritually right now, right? But our bodies kept living. And so what he did is he took the truth and he flipped it. He he gave, he he takes, he he goes from heads to tails on the coin. Right. He puts the tail before the dog. Right. That that our body is a necessary thing, but it’s not who we are. Right. And and so he does that all the time that he takes the thing and his truth. He it feels true and there’s some truth to it, but it’s really exactly the opposite of what God always intended for us.

Chris
And and then God says we’re created in his image, right? And so in his image, we we we are like him in so many ways. Uh, and there was a author that I’m not necessarily a fan of, but he wrote a fantastic book which talked about the fact that we create we’re the only beings on the earth to create. Right? Right, right. Like a beaver can build a dam, but that’s just instinctual, right? Right. He’s not going to he’s not going to look back with a blueprint and say, ooh, I have an idea.

Jeff
Build it.

Jeff
For aesthetics.

Chris
Yeah, yeah, let me build it for a beautiful. Yeah.

Chris
So he’ll do it for function.

Jeff
But we we create music.

Chris
We create art. That’s right. Yeah. And so in that fashion when we create, we are, uh, acting like God. Who is the creator? Yeah. Who gives us the ability to create because he made us in his image, right? That’s right. And so, um, and by the way, isn’t that hilarious that at the beginning of this podcast, we said something that we haven’t said in almost 500 episodes. We said, you know, we really don’t typically cross reference. Yeah. And we just cross reference twice. Yeah, twice.

Chris
We quoted Genesis and Psalms. Yeah.

Chris
Which is funny in this particular episode.

Chris
That’s right.

Jeff
Well, the expectation in order to be a Bible guy isn’t that, you know, the whole Bible, it’s that you are looking at the words on the page. That’s the then the more you do that, the more time you spend with the word, the more you can say, oh, hey, that’s connected to this, that’s connected to that, right? Connected. It’s just about spending time.

Chris
Yeah. That’s right. Yeah.

Jeff
That’s right. So so they’re going to kill him over the fact that he’s claiming to be God equal with God. Right. And um. He just leaves them. But he says, listen, everything I’ve done is consistent with this message. The miracles I’ve done have served to prove that I have power. The teaching that I’ve done have shown you the right path, he said. Because remember, this is just an extension of the of the previous passage where you know where he says, I, I’ve come to give them life and all that kind of stuff. And so, um, the teaching I’ve done is just to show you God’s way, and then I’ve done all this so I can bring you to God. And then I love this. He says, my sheep listen to my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me. From my father has given them to me, and he’s more powerful than anyone else. No one can snatch them from the father’s hand. The father and I are one. You know, a lot of people really struggle wondering. There was a day when I, you know, really always honored Jesus and I, and I knew I was saved. But then I slipped up and I sinned. I did the wrong thing. And now maybe I’m not saved anymore, right? Right. And I think of this passage often. Jesus says, listen, nobody can snatch them away from me. Nothing can snatch them away. Evil. The devil. Right? Evil circumstances can never snatch them away. I think about this when when my daughter, uh, was little, um, she cute as a bug. And she’s 20 now. Well, she’ll be 20 in just a couple weeks, but, uh, well, by the time you listen to this podcast, she’ll be 20, and, uh, but when she was little, three, 4 or 5 years old, she was very independent. Jeff
So she’s the third child. Um, she ruled the world. Her brothers are nine and seven years older than her. So she had this very strong independence and a very strong verbal ability. She just very funny in the things that she would say. So we would get out of the car back then. And, you know, 20 years ago, not all the cars had backup cameras and stuff. We get out of the car at Walmart or something and, uh, you know, as a good parent, your instinct, she wants to walk. She doesn’t want to be carried, so she wants to walk. But as a good parent, I say, okay, hold daddy’s hand. That’s what you do, right? Hold daddy’s hand. Right. And I was giving her a choice. Now I wasn’t going to give her a choice. I was going to hold her hand regardless. But I hold daddy because I wanted her to always to begin to learn the habit of when I get out of the car, I’m going to hold daddy’s hand. So she reaches up. She holds my hand from that point on with her life on the line, because cars couldn’t see over their trunks back then, with her life on the line. Who was holding whose hand?

Chris
Right? Right.

Jeff
I’m telling you, she couldn’t have gotten away from me if I wanted her to or if she wanted to at that point.

Chris
Right? Right, right.

Jeff
Because I was hanging, she stuck her hand in mine. But from that point on, I was holding on to her hand. Right. So it didn’t matter that in that moment she changed her mind and goes, oh, I really don’t feel like holding daddy’s hand anymore. Oh, I’m really tempted by that shopping cart. Or look at that piece of garbage blowing through the parking lot, or I want to go look at that bird, that seagull out in the parking lot. It doesn’t matter what she got distracted by or what she got caught up in. There were times where, I can be honest with you, she just drop all of her weight because she’s trying to wiggle her hand out. She’d start fighting me, right? And she was fighting me. She didn’t want me to hold her hand, and I just wasn’t going to let her let go at that point because her life was on the line.

Chris
Because you’re not going to.

Chris
Release her from your grasp.

Jeff
That’s right. I’m not going to snatch her away. That’s right.

Jeff
So bad guys aren’t going to snatch her. She’s not even going to be able to get out of my hand because it’s she’s in my grip. I wasn’t in hers. And that’s what Jesus is saying, what it means. He said, I’m going to give them eternal life. So Jesus is the one who gives you eternal life. And then once you’re in God’s hand, nothing can pull you out of God’s hand. God’s got a grip on you whether you’ve got a grip on him or not. Now, how great is it when a daddy and a daughter just walk together and they’re swinging hands and they’re they’re enjoying each other. So, hey, if there’s been a time in your life, if you’re in a time in your life right now where you feel like you’ve been trying to wiggle out of God’s grip, right? It’s not that he gave up on you. You didn’t lose your salvation. But man, life is so much better when you choose to walk alongside him, uh, you know, in peace and harmony and love in the way that he really wants you to experience him.

Jeff
Yeah.

Chris
So you have.

Jeff
To worry about.

Chris
Losing it.

Chris
So maybe a final thing would be this, uh, if you’re listening today and you feel like, uh, you’re out of God’s care, you’re out of God’s, you know, uh, purview. You don’t think that God is watching or he’s not hearing your prayers.

Chris
Or that you lost your.

Chris
Salvation, or that you lost your salvation, and you feel like based on what you’ve done, uh, you feel like God doesn’t have. You just know that you’re always in God’s hand, right? Right. If you’re once a child of God, always a child of God, right?

Jeff
There has to be a moment when you put your hand in his hand.

Chris
That’s right.

Jeff
From that salvation, he’ll never let you go. Yeah.

Chris
That’s great.

Chris
Well, that’s a good place to end. And we will see you next time on The Bible Guys.