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Chris
Hey, you know, I often wonder when Jesus healed Peter’s mother in law. I wonder if Peter was like, man, come on.

Jeff
Yeah.

Chris
I thought it was her time.

Jeff
Yeah. I’m kidding. If it’s your will, just. Just let her go peacefully, right? Jesus is like, no, I’m going to heal her. What? No, no, no, just let her go. Peaceful.

Chris
Well that’s what we’re talking about today.

Jeff
Well, he’s Chris, and I’m Jeff, and we’re the Bible guys. Okay, so, uh. Yeah. Now I’m in trouble. My mother in law listens to this podcast. So, Kathy, we were talking about Chris’s mother in law, not mine.

Chris
That’s right, that’s right. That’s so funny. And Sally, I think, listens to this podcast. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, she’s at home. Um, so, hey, today we just lost.

Jeff
We just lost two of our four listeners. That’s right, that’s right. Now it’s just our mom’s left. Both our mother in law’s just clicked off the unsubscribed. That’s so funny. Yeah.

Chris
So for our listeners, uh, we’re holding up paddles. Uh, we have these paddles that we’re holding up with. Sticks and pictures, and one’s Chris and one’s Jeff. And it’s our job to decide who’s most likely. Okay. All right. So we’re just going to just quickly.

Jeff
And we have to vote.

Chris
We have to vote. And so put them down. And then and then just just instinctively put them up as fast as you can okay. There we go. There’s five questions. Number one who’s most likely to go on a hot air balloon ride. That’s me I’d say you two. Yeah, yeah.

Jeff
I’ve been in a hot air.

Chris
Balloon. Yeah, well, I’ve never been. Yeah. And the thing is, I’m normally that guy. Yeah, yeah. So everybody around in my world would definitely vote me. Yeah, but me, compared to you, I think you. I think you win. Yeah.

Jeff
We did, uh, we did a hot air balloon over. There’s, uh, 5000, 1500 year old temples in Bagan in, uh, Myanmar along the Irrawaddy River. And we get get on the balloons at 5:00 in the morning. And we just went through the jungle, uh, right over top of all those, those temples. And then. Yeah, it was magnificent.

Chris
Are you afraid of heights?

Jeff
No.

Chris
So I’m afraid of heights. Oh, yeah. I would still do it.

Jeff
It’s so peaceful.

Chris
But I would be deathly afraid.

Jeff
It’s incredibly peaceful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you’d like it. Okay.

Chris
Number two, uh, who’s most likely to finish a pint of ice cream in one sitting?

Jeff
That’s probably me, too.

Chris
Actually. I’m going to say me.

Jeff
Oh, is it you? Yeah.

Chris
Yeah, yeah. Okay, so both of us are.

Jeff
I don’t feel so bad about myself. Yeah. We’re both going to sit. Okay. What kind of ice cream would you finish? An entire pint?

Chris
Butter pecan.

Jeff
Well, I have a specific one, so I’ve ice creams. Okay. Yeah, but I will unintentionally eat way too much moose tracks. Okay.

Chris
The way you feel about chocolate in general is the way I feel about all ice cream.

Jeff
Oh, really?

Chris
Yes.

Jeff
You just can’t say no.

Chris
I just can’t say no. Yeah, yeah. So unfortunately. Right. Yeah. So unfortunately, we both lifted our own names on that one. That was well.

Jeff
Very. No thyself. No.

Chris
No myself. Yes. That’s true. Okay. Number three, who’s most likely to become a college professor.

Jeff
Oh, I knew that. That’s, uh. Is that me? That’s you. Okay. It’s me. That’s you. Yeah.

Chris
Yeah, yeah, because.

Jeff
I have less personality than you. Is that what you’re saying? No.

Chris
Because that’s where your mind went. My mind went to knowledge. Which, by the way, is the.

Jeff
I was bored, I was bored with every professor I had.

Chris
Well, knowledge is the key.

Jeff
Okay?

Chris
And the prerequisite is, you know, the knowledge part. And I think that you have more knowledge than me. Uh, and then number four, uh, who’s most likely to reply all to a company wide email?

Jeff
That’s me.

Chris
I’d say. Me too.

Jeff
Oh, is it you?

Chris
Yeah. Yeah, I’d say me too. Yeah. And by the way, uh, isn’t it funny how you learn over the years, right. Yes. Because. Because how many of our listeners probably, um, you’ve blown it. You’ve replied all. Oh. And then. And then you wish you could unsend. Yes. Right. Yes. And you’re like. And by the way, like, you know, you can’t read tone in email and you’re like, oh, that’s not the way I meant it at all. You know.

Jeff
You reply all and say, don’t worry about it. He’s not going to be working here next week anyways, right?

Chris
And then have you ever done this?

Jeff
It was like, what?

Chris
Have you ever done this where you actually send like a personal joke or you send uh, you reply thinking that it’s not reply all.

Jeff
Oh, right. Right.

Chris
I remember one time somebody sent an email. I thought it was only this one person. I wrote back and it was something like, I did not want anybody here and it was the entire staff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was the entire staff.

Jeff
Well, Jesus said, what’s done in secret will be known in public.

Chris
Dun dun dun dun. Yeah, that’s that’s true. Yeah. All right. And here’s the fifth one, uh, who’s most likely to become a shark on Shark Tank.

Jeff
Oh, you.

Chris
Me? Yeah. I was gonna say. I was gonna say you. Really? Yeah, because I think I think you’re pretty savvy in business, and I think that I could see you in authority. Uh, you know, just just.

Jeff
So. Do you like that show? I love it, I love that show.

Chris
I love that show, too. Yeah.

Jeff
If I’m just scrolling and I. So I rarely think, oh, I want to go watch Shark Tank, but it’s almost always on. Right? Right. So, so on some channel somewhere.

Chris
It’s exactly my sentiment. I never turn it on. Yeah, but when it’s on, I stop and I watch it.

Jeff
And the next thing I’ve watched five episodes.

Chris
Right, right.

Jeff
But my my wife hates it.

Chris
Well hey, we sort of complimented each other on that one.

Jeff
Yeah, exactly. Well, through the whole thing, we we voted. I think we only we only voted the same way once.

Chris
Yeah. Which is what. Jeff
The first one. Uh, who’s most likely going to balloon ride?

Chris
Yeah. Which is.

Jeff
You. Yeah. Other than that, we were voting for each other. Yeah.

Chris
And to be honest with you, if it was anybody but you, I would have voted for myself, right? Yeah. Because you have, you have. You’ve traveled more and you’ve done adventurous things.

Jeff
I look for adventure.

Chris
Slightly more that me.

Jeff
Yeah. Look for adventures.

Chris
Hey, you know what I mentioned, by the way? I know we’re right at that time where we need to move on, but let me slip this in. Go ahead. Um, so when I was in the Egyptian pyramids, first of all. Yes. First of all, you don’t really meet anybody who’s been inside, you know, the the Giza pyramid.

Jeff
That’s right, that’s right. The great Pyramid of Khufu, right? Yeah, yeah. And then that’s the biggest one.

Chris
And then to meet somebody who’s inside the pyramid, I don’t know any person ever in my entire life who actually disobeyed the rules and laid down, crawled over the wall and laid in the sarcophagus. Yeah, yeah. Where the Egyptian.

Jeff
Pharaoh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chris
Uh, and then got a photo of it. And that’s my story. My story is like, dude, I climbed over the wall when nobody was looking. I disobeyed the rules. And I laid down with the Pharaohs, and I met you, and you’re like, guess what I did? And I’m like, there is no possible way they did it. We both, number one, been in the pyramids, right? And number two, I think we’re the only two people that I know. Yeah.

Jeff
I don’t know anybody.

Chris
Else who actually did that. Yeah.

Jeff
Um, we also, um, you’re not supposed to take pictures of King Tut’s mask, and we both did it. We both did it. We both did it.

Chris
They literally say do not photo. And you’re like, because you said that. I’m pulling out my phone.

Jeff
So there was a so for me, the sign was outside the room and there’s tons of stuff in that room. And it just said something about no photos. Yeah.

Chris
And so King Tut’s mask. Yeah. Yeah. Is the only thing you photo in that room?

Jeff
Uh, no.

Chris
Okay.

Jeff
But I got a picture. That’s the only thing I photo. Yeah, yeah. So security guard came up and said no photos. And I was like, oh, dude, I’ve been taking photos through the whole museum. And he goes, you’re allowed to take photos in museum. Oh, okay. Thank you. I put my phone in pocket, I walk away, he goes, no, no, no photos in here. And he wanted me to erase it. Yeah, well, I wound up, I took like 15 photos, so I erased. I just kept erasing until he told me that was enough. And then I kept the one that I got was good. Nice, nice. Yeah. I don’t know why. I don’t know why I. There’s no flashes. There’s nothing else. But we should have obeyed the rules. That’s one of those things for sure. We should repent.

Chris
Yeah. Kids don’t.

Jeff
It’s inappropriate. Don’t do what we do.

Chris
Do.

Jeff
Yeah, that was wrong, kids. That’s right. You should obey the rules.

Chris
All right? We need to move on.

Jeff
Here we go. So, uh, we already started this. We already opened this. Can I think both of us are avoiding getting into this mother in law thing because we made mother in law jokes, and now we’re going to pay the price. So, uh, this comes up in three parallel passages, and there’s a couple of neat little details that pop up. This is why it’s going to be the benefit of reading all three. So in Matthew chapter eight Matthew’s moving right along. Now. He’s he’s getting eight chapters in already. When Jesus arrived at Peter’s house, Peter’s mother in law was sick in bed with a high fever. But when Jesus touched her hand, the fever left her, and then she got up and prepared a meal for him. That evening, many demon possessed people were brought to Jesus, and he cast out evil spirits with a simple command, and he healed all the sick. This fulfilled the word of the Lord through the prophet Isaiah, who said, he took our sicknesses and removed our diseases. In Matthew chapter one, verse 29, Mark or Mark, I’m sorry? 129 it says, After Jesus left the synagogue with James and John, they went to Simon and Andrew’s home. Now Simon’s mother in law was sick in bed with a high fever, and they told Jesus about her right away. So he went to her bedside, took her by the hand, and helped her sit up. And then the fever left her. She prepared a meal for them that evening. After sunset, many sick, demon possessed people were brought to Jesus, and the whole town gathered at the door to watch. So Jesus healed many people who were sick with various diseases, and he cast out many demons. But because the demons knew who he was, he did not allow them to speak.

Jeff
Hmm. That’s interesting.

Chris
Yeah, that’s really interesting.

Jeff
And, uh, because remember, that’s what the demon did the day before was announce who he was, right?

Chris
And he wasn’t.

Jeff
Really he wasn’t ready.

Chris
For that. He wasn’t ready to reveal that.

Jeff
Isn’t that cool? And then in Luke chapter four, verse 38, it says, after leaving the synagogue that day, Jesus went to Simon’s home, where he found Simon’s mother in law very sick, with a high fever. Please heal her, everyone begged. Standing at her bedside. He rebuked the fever and it left her, and she got up at once and prepared a meal for them. As the sun went down that evening, people throughout the village brought sick family members to Jesus, no matter what their diseases were. The touch of his hand healed everyone. Many were possessed by demons and the demons came out at his command, shouting, you are the Son of God! But because they knew he was the Messiah, he rebuked them and refused to let them speak. Yeah, there it is. Isn’t that neat?

Chris
That’s really neat.

Jeff
So let me just get to it. Yep. Jesus comes out of the synagogue. It’s been a busy day at the synagogue. Yes, the Bible says he walks out of the synagogue with James and John. Um, you’ve seen it. The synagogue and Peter’s house are maybe 50 yards apart. Yeah. Probably not. Not very far. Right. So he walks from the synagogue to Peter’s house in, uh. Um, but then the Bible says when he gets to Peter’s house, everybody is begging Jesus to heal the mother in law. So Jesus touches her. He heals her instantly. And then what does she get up and do?

Chris
She makes him food.

Jeff
She makes dinner. Do you know why everybody was freaking out? Because who was going to make dinner? That was it. She was the best cook, right?

Chris
I’m pretty sure they had more reasons to freak out.

Jeff
I don’t know.

Chris
Other than that.

Jeff
That was that detail was recorded in all three. But it gets worse and worse. First of all, it’s hey, you need to heal Jesus or you need to heal Peter’s mom. Then James and John are like, Jesus, you got to heal Peter’s mom. Then the whole house is like, you got to heal Peter’s mom. And it’s because and I don’t mean to to speak ill of people, but. But mothers with experience. Yeah. Just make the biscuits better.

Chris
You’re really riding this thing.

Jeff
They do, they do. They make the biscuits better. You know why? Because I got that hanging down part right here. Wow. Under there. And it makes when when you’re stirring the biscuits like that, it makes the biscuits better. I’m not joking. That’s so. Otherwise you tell me, why do you believe that God just included useless words in the Bible?

Chris
No, no, no.

Jeff
So she got up and made dinner. And that’s why they’re all worried about her? Because she’s the best cook in the house.

Chris
I believe that that, uh, sentiment. Are you really being serious right now? Because. Because I because I actually believe that was given for this reason. Because, uh, she was that healed. That’s exactly correct. It was.

Jeff
Such a complete.

Chris
Healing. It was such a complete healing that she is fully at work making dinner. So here she is, ready to die, right? Yeah. And assumedly. Right. Sure, sure. And then all of a sudden she gets up and she’s completely healed. So much so to where she’s back to her duties, which again. Yeah. You know, if you think about it, if you’re making a meal for multiple men, right, you got to be hustling, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so that’s, that’s a demonstration of, of uh.

Jeff
So maybe, maybe, maybe you feel like I was off base a little. Yeah.

Chris
About about the biscuits. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you about mothers making better biscuits.

Jeff
Or your, your house. It was pasta. Right? Right. Yeah. Made better pasta. Yeah. So, uh, the other thing I want to say is this. So we’re making fun, but I agree with you. I think that the reason why this is mentioned in all three, that she gets up and makes dinner immediately, right, was to highlight the fact that it was total and complete healing immediately, which is really amazing. The other part is, um, what could Peter’s mom do to say thank you for to Jesus? Right, right, right. So, you know, she did. She did what she did best.

Chris
That’s right. Right.

Jeff
And you want to know that was an act of worship. Making dinner was an act of worship. Mm. That’s really good. If we could just. I was making a joke to drive it home. Yeah, but the reality is, if you could just do what you do best and do it for Jesus. Yeah. As an act of worship, that there’s something holy about that. That was a holy moment. Yeah. Right. And so, you know, making fun a little bit. But, uh, it’s a holy moment when you give Jesus your very best what you do best. Mm. Yeah. That’s great.

Chris
Yeah. Yeah, that’s that’s a that’s a great thought. Gee whiz. That’s that’s worth the price of admission.

Jeff
It was worth listening to Jeff offend every mother in law on the podcast.

Chris
About their flabby arms.

Jeff
I didn’t say flabby arms. They said that hanging down past the.

Chris
Hanging down part, you refer to flabby arms. So the just.

Jeff
To help stir the biscuits better.

Chris
When you do what you do best for the Lord. It’s an act of worship. That’s really great. That’s right. And, um, and by the way, uh, so Peter’s, uh, house was a little bit bigger. And that gives us insight because it goes to show you that Peter’s business with James and John was prominent. Right. It’s another reason why we know that Peter was highly successful. Yeah. And he was a you know, he was he was older than the other disciples. Um, by the way, when did you did you have a chance to walk into Peter’s house? Because, uh, on the walls, uh, is is actually like a carving that says Peter.

Jeff
Peter was here, right? Right. Yeah.

Chris
Yeah. I’m kidding.

Jeff
No. So. So there are carvings on the walls from. But it’s from the church that met there.

Chris
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Jeff
Later. So.

Chris
Yeah. And by the way, the church has done a always has done a good job. The Catholic Church has done us a great service because for every uh, holy site, uh, what they do is they build and I’m sure most of our listeners don’t know this. They build churches over what they consider holy sites. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the reason why they did that is because they want that site to forever be protected. Yeah. And you can’t infringe upon a church, right. Not supposed to not supposed to. Right. That’s that’s correct. And so, um, so the Catholic Church has done the world a great service because they sort of were the first on the scene and they were building churches. You know, you go to the woman at the well, you know, in Sychar and you’re like, oh, look, the well’s inside of a church, right? Right. You go to, you go to another place and and it’s a church, you know, the place where Jesus was believed to be crucified is a one big church. There’s all these churches that are built at every holy site. The church of the Nativity in Bethlehem. You guys went there? Yeah. Yeah, that’s a big church, right? Yeah. And that was built pretty close to when.

Jeff
Sometimes they completely obliterate the thing they’re protecting. And then it’s just a holy space. But what they did at Peter’s place was brilliant. Right. So this church was built I think it was in the 50s. They said so that that architect designed a couple of the most beautiful churches, I think, in Israel. But that one, he kind of built it like a spaceship. It sits kind of on stilts and it sits up above, above, um, rather than rather than just encompassing it. They built the church up above, um, uh, what is believed to be Peter’s home. And then they built a glass floor in, in the church so people can look down into Peter’s home, which is pretty extremely cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was brilliant. I wish that they’d done that at. All the places, right? Right. I wish somebody would have thought of that. You know, a thousand years ago when they were doing the others. But yeah, that’s really beautiful. So then the other thing is the Bible says that here, uh, I think it’s Luke mentions that Jesus, every body that he touched with his hand was healed. Yeah. That’s great. Which is interesting because, um, he spoke. Um, to heal the man. You know, the businessman’s son. Right, right. Your son’s going to be healed. Uh, he spoke to the demon possessed person in the synagogue, but now he’s touching people. And there’s just something so personal about that. That healing touch, right? Because he.

Chris
Doesn’t have to.

Jeff
Right? He doesn’t have.

Chris
To. He probably doesn’t even have to speak it. He probably can, you know. Well, he we know he can just think it. Right. So it is the, uh, you know, the action. If you think about when God created the world, he said, let there be light and there was light. And so he spoke into existence. There’s a there’s a there’s a Greek word or a Hebrew word for that. Uh, I ex-nihilo yes, yes, that’s right, that’s right.

Jeff
Nothing spoken out of.

Chris
Nothing there becomes something right. I think of that moment where Jesus speaks the world into existence. And then and then what I believe is another moment which we’ll get to is when he speaks, the birth of the church into existence and says, on this rock I will build my church and the gates, you know, and it’s not so literal, uh, you know, in terms of a tangible, uh, you know, you know, there’s light and there’s a firmament and there’s, you know, there’s there’s waters and there’s an earth and everything else. It’s not so literal and tangible, but but but he spoke the church into existence as well. And so, again, Jesus, uh, goes out of his way to speak. Speak, uh, healings. Uh, he touches healings. He doesn’t have to do any of those things. But you’re right. It’s hands on personal.

Jeff
There’s a, um, you know, when you’re touching a person, now you’re talking. Probably Jesus is face to face, right? And there’s a crowd of people, so they eat dinner right after a busy day at the synagogue. And then he’s surrounded by people until late into the evening. Probably. It just seems like it’s everybody. Right. And he’s taking personal time with each person. You know, uh, you and I are, are doing these podcasts right after we just baptized a bunch of people. Yeah, right. So we baptized, uh, we had a big celebration. We baptized 159 new believers.

Chris
In one service.

Jeff
Yeah, in one service, we had five Baptists. Baptismals. Yeah. And you and I both had two baptismals apiece. We were able to stand on the outside, but when we were planning that, it takes a long time to baptize 159 people. Yeah. Um, and so, uh, we, we tried to work through how do we streamline it in a way that the crowd watching, uh, didn’t have to stay for an hour and a half, right? Right. Um, because if we just had one baptismal and it takes you, you know, 15 20s to get in, sit down. 15 20s for the baptism. 15 20s to get out. Next thing you know, 150 people would have taken 300 minutes, right? Right. Um, five hours. Right. Is that how long 300 minutes is? Yeah. Yeah. Um, so then we thought, well, that’s we can’t do that. Right? So we need to shorten it up. So then we wound up getting five baptismals and then, you know, it was on video and we had photographers because this is a personal moment for each individual. Right. And so then as we were working through it in our meetings, it kind of felt like by the end that we were talking about moving cattle through, you know, it was cattle herding. And so then we said, okay, now that we’ve got the details worked out, let’s step one step back and still make it as personable as possible, because for each person, this was their moment. Yeah. And so then you and I and the other people who are doing baptisms, we we wound up having a team that was moving people through lines, getting people up and down, helping them get in and out. But you and I were able to look every person in the eye.

Jeff
We were able to have an individual moment. The other people who are doing baptisms as well, individual moments and those couple of minutes for that person were very meaningful for them, even while they were only on the screen for what you say, 17 seconds. Yeah, right. Average. Yeah. On average on the screen for just, you know, 20s less than 30. Yeah.

Chris
Because when the other four people were getting baptized, I was talking to that one individual. Yeah. So the entire time when, when I’m looking at this person saying, what’s your name? Uh, plug your nose. Uh, here we go. Let me ask you a question. Have you accepted Christ as your savior? Uh, and I would always say the way I do it is, I say, are you. Do you want to follow him all the days of your life? Yeah. Yeah. And they say yes. Okay. Well, then, today, based upon your public statement of faith, I baptize you, my sister, in the name of the father. And by the way, uh, what was so cool is I started that sentence when I. As soon as I baptized the other person, I turned around to the other tank, and I started that whole speech with them right immediately. And they were already in place because the volunteers put them in place, which is the sophisticated part of it. Right. But what’s so interesting is I thought it was so brilliant because as I was looking them in the eye and I had this personal moment, I would just continue my speech even though I knew the camera wasn’t on me. Right? Right. By the time I got to that space, I baptized you today in the name of the father and of the son. Usually when I got to that statement, the. Badly hit hit my shoulder, meaning the camera’s on you, right? And then and then then I was able to, uh, you know, dunk them and back up. But the crowd who’s hearing the worship band, right. And they’re singing along, right? Uh, you know, they only get to experience 17 seconds on the average of that person.

Chris
But I’ve I’ve spent all that time with that person a couple of minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jeff
And it was the personal thing. Yes. So, so we built systems right to manage a large crowd. Right. But it wasn’t about the large crowd. Right. It was never I never had the experience that it was about the large crowd. Right. The large crowd out in the stadium got to watch. They got to see what was happening. The life changed, the celebration, all that stuff. It was beautiful. People crying, watching, right, being a part of it, the person or the people in line got to celebrate and watch the next person get baptized or whatever. But every one of them, it was an individual thing, and I never felt like we were trying to move a crowd through. I felt like instead it was face to face, looking them eye to eye, the personal touch, the personal experience. This is one of the reasons why Jesus needed the disciples. You find the disciples wind up, they bring the children to Jesus, or they wind up trying to hold the children back. They pass out the, the, the food. You know, the they they manage the crowds and you know, all these things. One of the reasons why Jesus needed the disciples was to get all those little details done so that he could touch them with his hand, right? So that he could have those personal face to face moments. And it’s not unspiritual to plan, right? It’s not unspiritual to make sure that you can manage a larger impact or a larger crowd. Um, as long as it’s not about the crowd, right? It’s about the person. That’s right. And and I think Jesus made it deeply personal.

Chris
Well, in their life application study Bible, there’s a note and and it says this when, when you’re faced with a particularly difficult time, who helped you the most? While some may have said kind words, most likely it was the presence or the touch of a friend, a hug, an arm on your shoulder, or even just a hand laid gently on top of yours. These simple, uh, wordless gestures mean so much to those in pain and healing. The sick and the demon possessed. Jesus had already demonstrated that he could heal with just a word. Yet here in Capernaum, Luke records the touch of Jesus’s hand healed the sick. Why not just speak a word and heal the crowd, the whole crowd, the whole crowd at once? Why go through the trouble of treating each person individually face to face? Uh, perhaps because the human touch is so important. Does someone need a touch from you? Today is how it reads.

Jeff
I think that’s a brilliant question. Yeah. You’re right. Why didn’t you just go? You’re all healed.

Chris
Right? Right. And he and he definitely could have. He could have. Yeah. For sure. Uh, but you know, it is it is a great reminder. Again, we’ve already talked about this. Uh, I think Kyle and I talked about this last week. John 316 is the greatest verse in all the Bible. People hold it up in football games. That’s the most quoted verse, the most popular verse, because it summarizes the message of God. And yet Jesus gave it to somebody individually, face to face. Nicodemus. John chapter three at night. Uh, and it was a one on one conversation. Yeah. And yet you would expect that verse to be shouted from the rooftops. Yeah. And the woman at the well, what does he do? He reveals for the very first time that he’s the Messiah. Yeah. I mean, like, the biggest truth of all. And what does he reserve? He reserves it for a woman who felt, uh, you know, far from God. Unworthy, unloved. You know, not. And what does he do? A one on one conversation. It just shows you that that God is personal.

Jeff
He invites us into a family. Into a church. Yeah. But it’s it’s a personal encounter with Jesus is what matters.

Chris
That’s great. We need them both. Well, that’s a great place to end. And we will see you next time on The Bible Guys.