The Nile’s Gift: Moses’ Journey from a Basket to the Palace

Episode 451

June 24, 2024

Transcription

Connor:
You’re listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun and practical ways.

Chris:
Hey, we are so pleased that you have tuned in for another episode, hopefully multiple, of The Bible Guys.

Jeff:
There you go, and this is going to be incredible.

Chris:
It is an amazing day planned.

Jeff:
I hope you brought your A-game today, Chris.

Chris:
Well, I did bring a game. Okay, there you go.

Jeff:
Horse around.

Chris:
Yes. Okay. Well, hey today we’re gonna just jump right into it speak. Hey, there you go Good transition Desiree wrote down how well do you know them? We’re talking about the birth and rescue of Moses today Oh, so for this segment of how well do you know them? Chris is gonna ask Jeff three to four questions about his childhood We’re gonna see if Jeff knows them. How does that have to do with Moses? Oh

Jeff:
I don’t know, maybe she loves your beard.

Chris:
Moses Child? How do you know Moses had a beard?

Jeff:
I don’t know, because I watch the show.

Chris:
That’s true. Yeah, those Hebrew guys, they all probably had beards. There you go. Okay, so here’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to do true or false. And I’m just going to get you to just guess true or false.

Jeff:
Okay.

Chris:
True or false? Yeah, it’s not like two truths and a lie. It’s just simply true or false. Good. I’m going to give you like radical things. Yeah, good.

Jeff:
Okay, ready? Because true or false, I don’t even have to think about it. I can just randomly guess a thing and it doesn’t matter. You don’t even have to care. Are you giving points? You don’t even have to care. Okay, I don’t. Okay, here we go. Points?

Chris:
Yes. This is going to be… I tell you what, we’re just gonna go with 500 points. 500. There’s four of them. Okay. So you have the ability to make 2,000 points.

Jeff:
Once again, listeners, Chris is being cheap with the points, but okay. Here we go.

Chris:
I should have said one.

Jeff:
You should have been like a million.

Chris:
No, I should have said three points. Okay. Here we go. Ready? When I was young, I was standing in ankle-deep water next to my swimming pool, trying to plug in floodlights, and I electrocuted myself And I held on to it so long that my arm turned black. Turned black? Purple, dark purple, and then there was a little bit of a black spark on my finger. I’m going to say that’s false. It’s true, actually.

Jeff:
Is it true?

Chris:
You turned your arm black? No, listen, listen to me. My arm was purple. I just described it. Purple. Purple. And then the spark turned my fingers black.

Jeff:
Okay. All right. That’s true. I got hung up on the color of your arm. Okay. The rest of it sounded legit. I corrected myself.

Chris:
Okay. Here’s the second one. Um, my brothers went around and uprooted and stole every stop sign in our entire neighborhood.

Jeff:
I’m going to say that’s true.

Chris:
And then, wait a minute, I’m not done. I know, but your brothers. And then pieced them together and made one giant stop sign that was like probably 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 high. And then the newspaper came out, took a photograph, and it made the front page of the newspaper. I want to say that’s true.

Jeff:
That is true. My brother stole something that’s true All right, there’s our ball boys were bad boys Another brother thing, okay, but this is outlandish

Chris:
In the wintertime, my brothers built a snow wall about three feet thick, because, you know, back then snow was pretty high right across Kirk Road, which is a main road right by our house. And they watered it down with water. So it turned into ice so that people would have no choice but to drive down the road, see this wall that was higher than a car and have to turn around and go the other way.

Jeff:
Ice. They made ice out of it. Ice wall and ice wall. It sounds like a Zarbaw boy thing. I’m going to say yes. It’s true. Is it true?

Chris:
Three true statements.

Jeff:
Okay. Okay. All right. And I have a thousand points now out of 1500 possible. You can’t add. I said 500 points each. I know, but the first one I got wrong.

Chris:
Oh, you did get wrong.

Jeff:
I know. So I’m also honest.

Chris:
My bad. There you go. Okay. A thousand points. Last one. Here we go. My brother Donnie, by the time he turned 21 on his 21st birthday, he had wrecked and totaled 21 cars.

Jeff:
I know he’s wrecked and totaled a bunch of cars. I’m going to say false on 21. It’s 21. He wrecked and totaled 21 cars by his 21st birthday.

Chris:
Because he was a mechanic and he would buy cars for $100 and just junkers and then go out and just like, well, he would, he would do like, what do you call it? Like off-roading. Right. And he would do it on purpose. But then he would just like, you know, slide, wreck, hit a tree and be like, well,

Jeff:
I guess it’s the end of that car. And then go get another one.

Chris:
Go walking home and you buy another one for a hundred dollars.

Jeff:
Okay.

Chris:
And then he wrecked in total, but it’s true. He wrecked in total 21 cars by his 21st birthday.

Jeff:
So I only got a thousand points out of 2000 possible.

Chris:
Yes, that’s true. Okay.

Jeff:
Well, I’m sure that we had some listeners. That’s an F. Is that an F? It’s a 50. I know. I feel terrible. I’m slipping, Chris. I’m slipping.

Chris:
The only way to get an A with four questions is to get all four of them right.

Jeff:
That’s true. But I was slipping on that one.

Chris:
So I tricked you though. Four trues. I didn’t have one single false.

Jeff:
You didn’t have a single false thing, which I’m not accustomed to. I’m not accustomed to you talking without saying something false.

Chris:
That was a low blow. You’re just trying to make yourself feel better at this point. Because you only got 50%.

Jeff:
I only got 50%. I’m sorry. And these were about your brothers. And I don’t know your brothers as well as I know you. So there’s that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

Chris:
Well, apparently you know me well enough to say. That you’re not used to me telling the truth.

Jeff:
Okay. That’s so funny. Well, hey, as Chris’s incredible introduction to the podcast today said, we’re kicking off the birth of Moses, the birth of Moses. Yeah. If you were with us last week, the last day we talked about how Pharaoh was really skeptical and nervous about the people of Israel. They were expanding so much. And so he determined that what they needed to do was the midwives needed to kill all the baby boys. Right. And Yeah, and these midwives were finding different ways to get around it. So with that as the backdrop, the people of Israel now are slaves. This is very likely. Did you know there’s two different dates for the Exodus as people try to figure out what time, what dynasties are we talking about? So some people would say Ramses II would be his, because he was particularly wicked and evil. That would make a later date for the Exodus. It’s probably unlikely that would have been. And the reason why everybody says Ramses, well, there’s a lot of reasons, but if you ever saw Charlton Heston’s Ten Commandments, they chose Ramses as the guy, right? It’s very unlikely. It’s probably Thutmose II in that age, which is interesting because as we read the story, his daughter is going to come into the story and she’s a particularly famous person in Egypt. So it’s kind of neat. Okay. So here we go. Exodus chapter two, and we’re going to read one through 10.

Chris:
Are you saying Hollywood get it wrong?

Jeff:
It’s a shock to your system. It’s a shock to your system.

Chris:
Hollywood screwed up the Bible? Yeah, just a little, just a little. Possibly. Okay, go ahead.

Jeff:
Okay. About this time, a man and woman from the tribe of Levi got married. The woman became pregnant and gave birth to a son, and she saw that he was a special baby and kept him hidden for three months. But when she could no longer hide him, she got a basket made of papyrus reeds and waterproofed it with tar and pitch. She put the baby in the basket and laid it among the reeds along the bank of the Nile River. The baby’s sister then stood at a distance watching to see what would happen to him. Soon Pharaoh’s daughter came down to bathe in the river, and her attendants walked along the river bank. When the princess saw the basket among the reeds, she sent her maid to get it for her. When the princess opened it, she saw the baby and the little boy was crying. She felt sorry for him. This must be one of the Hebrew children, she said. Then the baby’s sister approached the princess. Should I go and find one of the Hebrew women to nurse the baby for you? She asked. Yes, do. The princess replied. So the girl went and called the baby’s mother. Take this baby and nurse him for me, the princess told the baby’s mother. I will pay you for your help. So the woman took her baby home and nursed him. Later, when the boy was older, his mother brought him back to Pharaoh’s daughter, who adopted him as her own son. The princess named him Moses, for she explained, I lifted him out of the water.” There you go. Isn’t that amazing?

Chris:
You know, what’s so interesting about this is that it just throws this what is it, a coincidence? It’s God’s ordination, you know, for them to say, should I, you know, the servant says, should I grab one of the Hebrew women? Uh, you know, and then it just so happens that she grabs his mother.

Jeff:
Yeah. Yeah. So it was Miriam. It was, it was Moses’s sister. Right. Went and got Moses’s mom.

Chris:
Oh, that’s what it was.

Jeff:
That’s what happened there. Yeah. Right. So remember it says that the baby’s sister stood at a distance watching to see what would happen. Yes. And then when the princess finds the baby, she goes and says, Hey, would you like me to go find somebody to nurse it? Oh, I missed that.

Chris:
I missed that. Yeah. It says it right there.

Jeff:
Verse number seven.

Chris:
So we know. Then the baby’s sister approached the princess.

Jeff:
Right. So we know Miriam is Moses’s sister. Right. And so she’s like, Hey, I know a lady that could help. Right. Right. This newborn baby’s mother. Yeah.

Chris:
Yeah. You know what? And it’s so funny because I, I, I glossed over that and I just didn’t comprehend that. But, uh, in the, in the movie that I’ve seen a hundred times on TV, uh, that, that wasn’t the case. It wasn’t the sister. Yeah. Well, no, no, it wasn’t. Uh, it, it, it just, it, what was the princess name? Neftali? Neftali?

Jeff:
Yeah. So yeah. The princess probably wasn’t.

Chris:
Okay, well the one in the movie was Neftali and and she she took the baby in and just literally just raised the baby Oh, right. So there was no grabbing a Hebrew mother.

Jeff:
No, so literally The storyline is that this baby’s out there, the princess finds the baby, you know, the baby’s crying, which then breaks her heart. Oh, poor baby. Everybody wants to help a crying baby. So then Miriam steps out. Hey, do you want me to find somebody to nurse the baby? Sure. And then the Bible says, take this baby and nurse him for me. And then I’ll pay you to do it. Right.

Chris:
So my baby lives, I’m getting money. Yeah.

Jeff:
And she took the baby home. It says later when the boy was older. Right. Not when the baby was older. Right. When the boy was older. So he was at least a toddler. His mother brought him back to Pharaoh’s daughter who adopted him as her own son.

Chris:
Yeah. He wasn’t a baby anymore. Yeah. So that’s pretty incredible. And so what’s so interesting is you said Hollywood got it wrong, maybe in the dynasty. Not only did they get it wrong in the dynasty, they got a lot of the details wrong.

Jeff:
Yeah, so what I was going to say is, so there’s the earlier Exodus and there’s the later Exodus. The later Exodus has several problems historically as far as timing. So if the earlier Exodus is correct, then this would have been Thutmose II’s daughter. Thutmose II wasn’t known to be particularly mean or horrible, but hey, he did have a lot of slaves and things, so that’s not a problem. But this would have made his daughter be Hatshepsut. and she was a female Pharaoh eventually. So after her father died, she becomes… And so have you ever seen just outside of the Valley of the Kings, there’s that great big, giant wide temple. It’s got the stairs that go all the way up to it. That’s her funerary temple right there. So it’s like one of the most famous… Well, I would say it’s probably the most famous temple in Southern Egypt, as far as when you get outside of Karnak or Luxor, this was her funerary temple. I’ve been there, it’s pretty great. But the thing about it was she was an extremely successful pharaoh. It didn’t last very long, but during that time there was a lot of art, all these things, and she kept depicting herself as a male pharaoh. So she had the fake beard, the whole nine yards, and it was because women weren’t supposed to be pharaohs. So then her stepson, Tutmos III, becomes the pharaoh and starts chipping her face off all of her statues. So it’s only because of her temple and a few other spots that we know that it was actually a woman and not a man in her time. So, the notes here in the Life Application Study Bible talk about it. It says, who was Pharaoh’s daughter? There are two popular explanations. Some think that Hatshepsut was the woman who pulled Moses from the river. Her husband, oh, it was her husband, not father, was Pharaoh Thutmose II, and this would match the earlier Exodus date. Apparently, Hatshepsut could not have children so Thutmose had a son by another woman and this son became heir to the throne. Hatshepsut would have considered Moses a gift from the gods because now she had her own son who would be the legal heir to the throne. right? Then it goes on, it says, some think that the princess who rescued Moses was the daughter of Ramses II, but this would have made the later exodus date and it wouldn’t have really worked out. So if it was Hatshepsut, she wound up being a particularly good Pharaoh for a while. But then what happened was her stepson winds up becoming the heir to the throne, and he’s the one who chipped out her entire story and made himself, replaced his face on all of her statues. Wow. Yeah, yeah. And then he was particularly cruel, so it makes sense that he would be the pharaoh that Moses squares off against at the end on the way out of Egypt.

Chris:
And that would make them stepbrothers.

Jeff:
Sort of. Yeah. So he was the son of Pharaoh through another woman and Moses was the adopted son of the Pharaoh’s wife. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s pretty neat. If you’re into the whole Egyptian thing, she’s an incredible story. If you ever look all that up and really, really neat. So it’d be cool. And it’s about the right time. That’d be about the right time. So.

Chris:
Yeah, that is interesting because the chronological, you know, we could really piece together where everything happens based on lifespans, right? Based on, you know, recorded history, things match up in recorded history. And then the Bible actually gives, you know, times. And it says, oh, there’s 400 years of silence between Malachi and Matthew. Is that right? That’s correct. That’s 400 years of silence. So, you know, you could literally stack centuries upon each other and go backwards. and figure out the whole thing.

Jeff:
So this is very likely somewhere around 1500 years before Christ is when all this is happening. So yeah, if you’re trying to place it, figure out where it is, there’s maybe two different pharaohs. They’re not far apart, but a couple hundred years, but it’s, I probably think it would be more towards this time. The top most is in hat. I can’t ever say name. Hat. Hat. Shep. Suit. That’s how it is. Hatshepsut. Hat. Shep. Suit. Say it three times fast.

Chris:
I can’t. I can’t. Hatshepsut. Hatshepsut. Hatshepsut. Hatshepsut. No, it’s hat. Okay. Whatever. I thought I could do it.

Jeff:
All of our listeners are like, okay, now they’re all going, Hatshepsut, Hatshepsut. But look it up. In the Valley of the Kings, or near the Valley of the Kings, not far from where King Tut was found, is this magnificent funerary temple that is really, really incredible.

Chris:
So what sermons are hidden in this thing here? I would say one of them is, you know, how about this? You know, God calls us to obey our parents. God calls us to obey the laws of the land. But when the laws of the land or our parents, you know, give us things that, you know, literally contradict God’s word, you know, it’s okay to disobey because we obey God rather than man. And so if my mom said, you need to worship the devil, which she would of course never do, I would say, I’m going to have to disobey you there, mom. Right. Because I’m not going to, I’m not going to go ahead and, you know, choose obeying my mom over God.

Jeff:
Right. Oh, I think, I think you have that along those lines. There’s a note here in the life application study Bible that says, when faced with evil, look for ways to act against it and then trust God to use your effort. How small it, however small it seems in his war against evil. Right. And that’s what they did is they’re like, Hey, we’re not going to kill this baby. We value life so much that we’re willing to risk our own. And we don’t know how to protect this baby. The only thing I can think of is let’s make this little boat and see what God does. And, and so they decided not at my hand, I’m not killing this baby at my hand. And then Miriam’s out there watching, taking care of the baby. Don’t know how long, but then Miriam had the guts. Can you imagine how difficult it would be for a Jew to approach a Pharaoh’s daughter? It’d be scary. But she took advantage of that opportunity and said, hey, I know a lady that could help. And I think a lot of times we miss great opportunities because of fear. And we’re afraid, what if she says no? Yeah, but what if she says yes? So they valued life so much that they wouldn’t execute this baby or kill this baby at their own hand, but they had no other choice but to just trust God that he’d solve it. And then Miriam had the guts to approach.

Chris:
Yeah, that’ll preach. And then what about this one? The fact that some people just have a calling on their lives. There are people who they just know for certain early on that God has called them to a certain thing. And then, you know, they try to run from it or they try to avoid it. And there’s no indication that Moses tried to avoid, you know, you know, his unbelievable upbringing. You know, but he did flee, and he went to Midian. We’ll get to that part. But he spent years and years, you know, as a shepherd until God called him. But he did try to get out of it, though, didn’t he? He tried every excuse under the book. As God said, I’m choosing you. He’s like, no, no, no, no, no, no. He’s like, choose anybody else. We’ll get to that in a minute. But, you know, this right here is a pretty good indicator that God has something special chosen for this baby boy who is somehow rescued amongst the multitudes. Right.

Jeff:
It’s really incredible. One more note. I’m obsessed with the notes here. It literally says Moses’s mother was reunited with her baby. God used her courageous act of saving and hiding her baby to begin his plan to rescue his people from Egypt. God doesn’t need much from us to accomplish his plan for our lives, which is such a great phrase. But He does need us to surrender, right? Focusing on our human predicament may paralyze us because the situation may appear humanly impossible, but concentrating on God and His power will help us see the way out. So right now you might feel unable to see through your troubles, but focus instead on God and trust Him for the way out. That’s all He needs to begin His work in you. Isn’t that great?

Chris:
Yeah, that’s really good. So those are those are all applications right here. And so we we know that God has great things for Moses and And and I guess did we already say this that? People worship the Nile River. Yeah, right and so so they would have they would have even in some ways thought that maybe it was a gift from the gods and Right. Right. So even though that obviously she identified it as a Hebrew child, she might’ve thought that maybe, you know, this is in the Nile River. It could have been something that was, you know, either ordained or, you know, or supposed to happen or something like that. Right. Because, you know, everything revolved around the Nile. Right. They get everything from the Nile, you know, food and rich soil and all these different things. So,

Jeff:
And that would have been for her then, this was her answer to prayer, especially if this was the top most story, because there was a stepson that was going to inherit the throne and she was grieving and wanted a son. And then she would have felt like the God of the Nile gave her a son. And it’s pretty crazy to think Moses may have been the heir to the throne of Egypt. So yeah, it’s pretty amazing. Anyways. Hey, this story is going to get good.

Chris:
Yeah, well, it’s already good. Yeah. So, hey, well, that’s a good place to stop. And hopefully we’ll see you next time on The Bible Guys.